Rare skins? - Guild Wars Forums

Jaz the shadowalker · Jan 25, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Hey folks!
Many times I have been out crushing creatures and found what I believed was a "rare" or high end wepon worth a considerable sum of cash. But when I came to wanting to sell, I found it really wasnt worth as much as I hoped.

So im asking you guys for help.

I would love to know what each "rare" skin is and what a clean one is worth. Or if there is a thread I could see with a list of high value skins?

Thanks for the help!

Lichtenberg · Jan 25, 2010, 05:33 PM // 17:33

browse high end every now and then, you will get the hang of it.

Lord Dagon · Jan 25, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48

what lichtenberg said.. once you get aquainted w/ the high end forum you can preety much guesstamate how much ea drop is worth lol.

DBMan · Jan 25, 2010, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Weapons that have been made from the Design-a-weapon contest are usually valuable ones.

EDIT: You won't usually find valuable items from normal foes. Most are from end dungeon chest.

Quaker · Jan 25, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55

What the others have said, plus - what's valuable changes from time to time based upon desirability. However, as DBman said, most valuable weapons come from end chests of EotN dungeons. A lot of the skins from the other campaigns, even though rare, are not worth as much as they once were.

Some "old school" (not inscribable) weapons with max mods are worth a great deal.

There are various resources available to help you. You can check the buy/sell forums and Guru Auctions to get an idea of what's valuable now. You can also use the price check forums to get an idea of the value of something you think might be worth something.

Btw, there are a number of semi-rare, semi-desirable skins that are worth 5-15k or so. (In addition to the uber-rare ones.)

ChaosWarrior · Jan 25, 2010, 08:08 PM // 20:08

frog scepter, obsidian edge, dhuum's scythe, chrystaline blade etc, some celestial compas.
weapons that you only can get form end game chests, z chest etc.

37er · Jan 25, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Rare might mean uncommon so let's say 20/20 oldschool staves, 15^50 oldschool weapons... the lower req, the rarer item... but if u are thinking in skins, this depends on personal likes, for example I like the astral staff more than other staff but its not super-rare.

take_me · Jan 25, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

The following skins (all from Cantha) only come non-inscr, so they can be worth quite a lot WITH the right inherent mods.

* Ornate Shield
* Echovald Shield
* Bladed Shield
* Gothic Defender
* Amber Aegis
* Outcast Shield
* Plagueborn Shield
* Diamond Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription)
* Iridescent Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription)

* Celestial Staff
* Dragon Staff
* Bo Staff
* Cockatrice Staff
* Forbidden Staff
* Outcast Staff
* Plagueborn Staff

* Celestial Scepter
* Koi Scepter
* Plagueborn Scepter
* Jellyfish Wand

* Paper Fan
* Jug
* Plagueborn Focus
* Paper Lantern

I probably forgot some

And like others already said. Most inscribable rare/valuable skins come from dungeon end chests.

LicensedLuny · Jan 25, 2010, 09:10 PM // 21:10

tl;dr? - No, sorry, no list. Use search to PC if you can and/or spend some time asking other players.

My standard way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-or-read response ...

Over the years I've watched a few people with nothing but the best of intentions try to write such a list. I've never seen it work nearly as well as the ideal you're looking for. In this thread you have some folks doing their best to give you a quick list, but they can't cover everything.

You have to realize that a lot of what is "rare" shifts with where most people are getting most of their drops. What is "valuable" shifts with supply and demand. I can think of all sorts of things which seem at least semi-rare because I hardly ever see them for sale. When they go up for sale, they don't always wind up being that valuable because there aren't enough interested buyers to bid the average prices up.

There was a time when things like Colossal Scimitars and Elemental Swords were considered both rare and valuable. Shifts in the game put a lot more of each in the market and slashed the prices. Today they're worth less than 10% of what they were a few years ago. It's supply and demand.

There are A LOT of possibilities in terms of gear drops. The "market value" of drops reflects not only the skin but the functionality of their fixed stats. Blue, non-max, inscribable tactics shields with the right stats sell like hotcakes lately, for ~10x the price of their gold, req 9 counterparts or more. It's because there are a lot more buyers looking for PvP shields. Inherent items with fairly common/core skins but an unusually nice mix of inherent mods are another example - such will sometimes sell for significantly higher prices than the gold, r9, insc. versions of the same skin when players who like "oldschool" gear take notice.

(I put "fixed" in bold up there because I'm talking about stats which cannot be changed with components like inscriptions and sword pommels, etc. I don't recommend anyone who is asking for advice on player-to-player trading try to increase the market value of their drops by attaching components. On average, you get more gold selling the weapons and the desirable components separate. Some people who know the market and spend a lot of time trading can manage to make better money selling modded gear, yeah, but that's a whole new art to learn.)

While we might agree on average recent price ranges for some things, realize prices for the same item can vary a lot. Just because someone bought one for 50k last week does not guarantee you will immediately find someone willing to buy yours for the same price ... or for any price. It just doesn't work that way. Some people don't mind spending the time to wait for the good prices when selling and the good deals when buying; other people just want to get their player-to-player trading done fast and get back to the ways they want to spend their game time. The game has never had any support for automated player-to-player trade, and it likely never will. (Please don't misunderstand this as me starting another "in-game auction house" discussion. There's no point in complaining about it or asking them to add it yet again - if they were going to do it, they would have.)

For all of the above reasons (and probably more I've forgotten,) writing up a list of what gear is worth how much becomes a monumental task in the first place. If someone did manage to write it, keeping it up to date is an even bigger job.

Bottom Line - no such list exists which covers everything, sorry. If you're very concerned that you not merch or undersell anything of value then you need to spend a good bit of time watching the market, looking for PC info, and then looking for motivated buyers. It is most certainly possible to get the hang of it, but it takes everyone some time and effort to learn something new.

I find Guru's search these days works a lot better than it used to - put what you're looking for in quotes (for example, "Dragon Staff") and see what kind of hits you get in Ventari's. If you're still not sure, you can always ask for PC help in game or here in the Price Check section. There's no guarantee that you'll get answers, but it can't hurt to ask.

Cheers & GL!
Luny

Jaz the shadowalker · Jan 27, 2010, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Thanks everyone for the help! I appreciate it greatly and shall take all this infomation into consideration

Rekliss · Jan 28, 2010, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by take_me

The following skins (all from Cantha) only come non-inscr, so they can be worth quite a lot WITH the right inherent mods.

* Ornate Shield
* Echovald Shield
* Bladed Shield
* Gothic Defender
* Amber Aegis
* Outcast Shield
* Plagueborn Shield
* Diamond Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription)
* Iridescent Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription)

* Celestial Staff
* Dragon Staff
* Bo Staff
* Cockatrice Staff
* Forbidden Staff
* Outcast Staff
* Plagueborn Staff

* Celestial Scepter
* Koi Scepter
* Plagueborn Scepter
* Jellyfish Wand

* Paper Fan
* Jug
* Plagueborn Focus
* Paper Lantern

I probably forgot some

And like others already said. Most inscribable rare/valuable skins come from dungeon end chests.

a slight correction; The amber aegis DOES come inscribed.

Fallen SeraphiM · Jan 28, 2010, 07:55 AM // 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rekliss

a slight correction; The amber aegis DOES come inscribed.

no,it doesnt ^^

talon994 · Jan 28, 2010, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Amber Aegis' DO NOT come inscribable. Ironic that there was a small argument a few hour's ago in Kamadan on this topic

TheRaven · Jan 28, 2010, 11:43 AM // 11:43

A quick question on the Amber Aegis then. I thought ALL weapons had the ability to drop from the Z Chest? Is that not so?

take_me · Jan 28, 2010, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

A quick question on the Amber Aegis then. I thought ALL weapons had the ability to drop from the Z Chest? Is that not so?

Yep. Zaishen-Chest does not drop all skins. Not even close.
Most of those skins are from Cantha.

I tried to put a list together. There are only a few skins I'm unsure about:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...ut_inscription

Jan 25, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04	#1
Jaz the shadowalker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: The Keepers Of Souls Profession: N/	Rare skins? Hey folks! Many times I have been out crushing creatures and found what I believed was a "rare" or high end wepon worth a considerable sum of cash. But when I came to wanting to sell, I found it really wasnt worth as much as I hoped. So im asking you guys for help. I would love to know what each "rare" skin is and what a clean one is worth. Or if there is a thread I could see with a list of high value skins? Thanks for the help!

Jan 25, 2010, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#4
DBMan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2009 Guild: The Phoenix Dynasty [Tear] Profession: R/	Weapons that have been made from the Design-a-weapon contest are usually valuable ones. EDIT: You won't usually find valuable items from normal foes. Most are from end dungeon chest. Last edited by DBMan; Jan 25, 2010 at 06:30 PM // 18:30..

Jan 25, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#5
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	What the others have said, plus - what's valuable changes from time to time based upon desirability. However, as DBman said, most valuable weapons come from end chests of EotN dungeons. A lot of the skins from the other campaigns, even though rare, are not worth as much as they once were. Some "old school" (not inscribable) weapons with max mods are worth a great deal. There are various resources available to help you. You can check the buy/sell forums and Guru Auctions to get an idea of what's valuable now. You can also use the price check forums to get an idea of the value of something you think might be worth something. Btw, there are a number of semi-rare, semi-desirable skins that are worth 5-15k or so. (In addition to the uber-rare ones.) Last edited by Quaker; Jan 25, 2010 at 06:58 PM // 18:58..

Jan 25, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18	#8
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	The following skins (all from Cantha) only come non-inscr, so they can be worth quite a lot WITH the right inherent mods. * Ornate Shield * Echovald Shield * Bladed Shield * Gothic Defender * Amber Aegis * Outcast Shield * Plagueborn Shield * Diamond Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription) * Iridescent Aegis (req Strength - doesn't come with inscription) * Celestial Staff * Dragon Staff * Bo Staff * Cockatrice Staff * Forbidden Staff * Outcast Staff * Plagueborn Staff * Celestial Scepter * Koi Scepter * Plagueborn Scepter * Jellyfish Wand * Paper Fan * Jug * Plagueborn Focus * Paper Lantern I probably forgot some And like others already said. Most inscribable rare/valuable skins come from dungeon end chests. Last edited by take_me; Jan 25, 2010 at 08:28 PM // 20:28..

Jan 25, 2010, 05:33 PM // 17:33	#2
Lichtenberg Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Mass Delusion [LARP]	browse high end every now and then, you will get the hang of it.

Jan 25, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#3
Lord Dagon Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Inside the Oblivion Gate Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE] Profession: E/Me	what lichtenberg said.. once you get aquainted w/ the high end forum you can preety much guesstamate how much ea drop is worth lol.

Jan 25, 2010, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#6
ChaosWarrior Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chaos Wastes Profession: W/	frog scepter, obsidian edge, dhuum's scythe, chrystaline blade etc, some celestial compas. weapons that you only can get form end game chests, z chest etc.

Jan 25, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#7
37er Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ibiza, Spain Guild: [HOPE] Profession: W/	Rare might mean uncommon so let's say 20/20 oldschool staves, 15^50 oldschool weapons... the lower req, the rarer item... but if u are thinking in skins, this depends on personal likes, for example I like the astral staff more than other staff but its not super-rare.

Jan 25, 2010, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#9
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	tl;dr? - No, sorry, no list. Use search to PC if you can and/or spend some time asking other players. My standard way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-or-read response ... Over the years I've watched a few people with nothing but the best of intentions try to write such a list. I've never seen it work nearly as well as the ideal you're looking for. In this thread you have some folks doing their best to give you a quick list, but they can't cover everything. You have to realize that a lot of what is "rare" shifts with where most people are getting most of their drops. What is "valuable" shifts with supply and demand. I can think of all sorts of things which seem at least semi-rare because I hardly ever see them for sale. When they go up for sale, they don't always wind up being that valuable because there aren't enough interested buyers to bid the average prices up. There was a time when things like Colossal Scimitars and Elemental Swords were considered both rare and valuable. Shifts in the game put a lot more of each in the market and slashed the prices. Today they're worth less than 10% of what they were a few years ago. It's supply and demand. There are A LOT of possibilities in terms of gear drops. The "market value" of drops reflects not only the skin but the functionality of their fixed stats. Blue, non-max, inscribable tactics shields with the right stats sell like hotcakes lately, for ~10x the price of their gold, req 9 counterparts or more. It's because there are a lot more buyers looking for PvP shields. Inherent items with fairly common/core skins but an unusually nice mix of inherent mods are another example - such will sometimes sell for significantly higher prices than the gold, r9, insc. versions of the same skin when players who like "oldschool" gear take notice. (I put "fixed" in bold up there because I'm talking about stats which cannot be changed with components like inscriptions and sword pommels, etc. I don't recommend anyone who is asking for advice on player-to-player trading try to increase the market value of their drops by attaching components. On average, you get more gold selling the weapons and the desirable components separate. Some people who know the market and spend a lot of time trading can manage to make better money selling modded gear, yeah, but that's a whole new art to learn.) While we might agree on average recent price ranges for some things, realize prices for the same item can vary a lot. Just because someone bought one for 50k last week does not guarantee you will immediately find someone willing to buy yours for the same price ... or for any price. It just doesn't work that way. Some people don't mind spending the time to wait for the good prices when selling and the good deals when buying; other people just want to get their player-to-player trading done fast and get back to the ways they want to spend their game time. The game has never had any support for automated player-to-player trade, and it likely never will. (Please don't misunderstand this as me starting another "in-game auction house" discussion. There's no point in complaining about it or asking them to add it yet again - if they were going to do it, they would have.) For all of the above reasons (and probably more I've forgotten,) writing up a list of what gear is worth how much becomes a monumental task in the first place. If someone did manage to write it, keeping it up to date is an even bigger job. Bottom Line - no such list exists which covers everything, sorry. If you're very concerned that you not merch or undersell anything of value then you need to spend a good bit of time watching the market, looking for PC info, and then looking for motivated buyers. It is most certainly possible to get the hang of it, but it takes everyone some time and effort to learn something new. I find Guru's search these days works a lot better than it used to - put what you're looking for in quotes (for example, "Dragon Staff") and see what kind of hits you get in Ventari's. If you're still not sure, you can always ask for PC help in game or here in the Price Check section. There's no guarantee that you'll get answers, but it can't hurt to ask. Cheers & GL! Luny

Jan 27, 2010, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#10
Jaz the shadowalker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: The Keepers Of Souls Profession: N/	Thanks everyone for the help! I appreciate it greatly and shall take all this infomation into consideration

Jan 28, 2010, 08:46 AM // 08:46	#13
talon994 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario,Canada Guild: 聖光麒麟 Profession: W/	Amber Aegis' DO NOT come inscribable. Ironic that there was a small argument a few hour's ago in Kamadan on this topic

Jan 28, 2010, 11:43 AM // 11:43	#14
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	A quick question on the Amber Aegis then. I thought ALL weapons had the ability to drop from the Z Chest? Is that not so?